Sorry! Here we go:
Iowa debate was hilarious. Not because of Alan Keyes, but because of the global warming question. Not Fred's comment, but the fact the other "front runners" raised their hands. Yes, even Romney who flip flopped then and there. One minute raising, the next cheering Fred's "defiance".
Teaparty rocked. $6.04 Million. I predicted $6,000,000. Close enough for me that I'll call it accurate. If Ron Paul wins the nomination, I'll be right yet again. I said Bush was going to win in 2000, I said Kerry was going to get the nomination in 2004, said Bush was going to win in 2004.
Not much tea party coverage though. I bet if Huckabee broke the fundraising record they would report on it. The tickers and media (aside from Tucker Carlson)reported it as 5.4 Million or so. Hell, know who had the best week in the Hardball Power Ranking? Huckabee. Why? He insulted Bush and put a Christmas Ad out. Guess who else put one out? This is not fair at all. Not at all. I understand not reporting on Ron Paul normally. That's just the vicious media-consumer cycle. The fact that a 234,735,523,936th tier candidate (in their eyes) broke the fundraising record should be reported on more! At least recognized in those power rankings!
Showing posts with label Debate. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Debate. Show all posts
Monday, December 17, 2007
Monday, December 10, 2007
Hunter dodges, Romney lies, Thompson cries fascist, Paul rocks
The question was about a large majority of Hispanics wanting to get out of Iraq. Duncan hunter said that the hispanic troops don't. Apparently they're far more important than us silly citizens!
Romney on why we have to stay in Iraq-We've been there for a while. It's about human lives!
And somehow being in Iraq makes us safer.
Thompson said "Islamic fascists" declared war on us. Just because we call the bad guys fascists doesn't mean they actually are.
Ron Paul connected Vietnam and the draft to Iraq rather well.
Romney on why we have to stay in Iraq-We've been there for a while. It's about human lives!
And somehow being in Iraq makes us safer.
Thompson said "Islamic fascists" declared war on us. Just because we call the bad guys fascists doesn't mean they actually are.
Ron Paul connected Vietnam and the draft to Iraq rather well.
On the Chavez Question...
Giuliani makes a joke about how he'll treat Chavez ("I actually agree with the way King Juan Carlos spoke to Chavez") and then attacks Ron Paul ("That would be the way I would do it. Far better than what Congressman Paul wants to do.")
He's either trying to get support by smacking the "little" guy around or he's very nervous about his gains.
By the way, I like the idea of trying to be a peacemaker instead of telling someone to shut up just because we don't like him. The ifference between Rudy and the the King saying that? Juan Carlos had a good reason to.
He's either trying to get support by smacking the "little" guy around or he's very nervous about his gains.
By the way, I like the idea of trying to be a peacemaker instead of telling someone to shut up just because we don't like him. The ifference between Rudy and the the King saying that? Juan Carlos had a good reason to.
Univision Debate
Transcript
They had an english translation on CC3...the TV downstairs only goes up to CC2. I tried to translate the closed captions the best I could. I gave up after I said "Okay, he said something about illegal immigrants, pedophiles, and coca cola."
Anyway, there's the transcript. I'll be looking through it later, but at Lew Rockwell's site they're saying Ron Paull was the only one to tell it like it is.
They had an english translation on CC3...the TV downstairs only goes up to CC2. I tried to translate the closed captions the best I could. I gave up after I said "Okay, he said something about illegal immigrants, pedophiles, and coca cola."
Anyway, there's the transcript. I'll be looking through it later, but at Lew Rockwell's site they're saying Ron Paull was the only one to tell it like it is.
Thursday, November 29, 2007
Youtube Debate
I'm pretty sure Ron Paul got less time than Fred Thompson even though he leads him in NH. I say pretty sure because I'm waiting to see the exact numbers.
Anyway, my reaction-
Rudy/Mitt lovefest continues. I swear, the front runners seem like they're running for Governor.
More importantly, John McCain is out of his mind. Isolationism caused WWII? Hitler should have been stopped before he came to power? Sorry, but if he was, he would have been a hero and not the reviled man he is. Anyhoo, better that he wasn't a hero to the Germans. I can just imagine "Iran is the new Austria-Hungary!" Speaking of, it was the Allies' (including the US) fault that Hitler came to power and WWII started. The idea of a noble America has been shattered for me mainly because of WWI. That's another post for another day, though.
The biggest heartbreaking moment for me wasn't seeing Ron Paul smeared. No, he can overcome that like he has very time. It was when he (more or less) said we shouldn't be in Iraq telling them what to do because we wouldn't like it and people booed him.
Remember, we see those we stepped on to rise to the top when we fall to the bottom.
Of course, there were lots of jokes. People like jokes and it courts voters. Such a shame that something so shallow courts them.
Finally, thanks to the massive amount of time the front runner candidates took up, there weren't many questions.
Anyway, my reaction-
Rudy/Mitt lovefest continues. I swear, the front runners seem like they're running for Governor.
More importantly, John McCain is out of his mind. Isolationism caused WWII? Hitler should have been stopped before he came to power? Sorry, but if he was, he would have been a hero and not the reviled man he is. Anyhoo, better that he wasn't a hero to the Germans. I can just imagine "Iran is the new Austria-Hungary!" Speaking of, it was the Allies' (including the US) fault that Hitler came to power and WWII started. The idea of a noble America has been shattered for me mainly because of WWI. That's another post for another day, though.
The biggest heartbreaking moment for me wasn't seeing Ron Paul smeared. No, he can overcome that like he has very time. It was when he (more or less) said we shouldn't be in Iraq telling them what to do because we wouldn't like it and people booed him.
Remember, we see those we stepped on to rise to the top when we fall to the bottom.
Of course, there were lots of jokes. People like jokes and it courts voters. Such a shame that something so shallow courts them.
Finally, thanks to the massive amount of time the front runner candidates took up, there weren't many questions.
Monday, October 29, 2007
Ron Paul at the Fox debate
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Ron_Paul_s_Wife_Talks_About_Fox_News_Debate
Well, there ya go, proof that Fox was up to no good. We're fully in the "fight" phase of that Gandhi quote. Here we go!
Well, there ya go, proof that Fox was up to no good. We're fully in the "fight" phase of that Gandhi quote. Here we go!
Monday, October 22, 2007
Post Debate Thoughts
I would have done some pre-debate thoughts, but like I said, I'd rather not write about politics on Sundays. No posts yesterday because I was feeling sick and didn't do anything interesting.
Anyway, the debate was interesting. Not quite great like the FNC folks were saying, but still interesting. Ron Paul isn't on the end of the group anymore, which is good.
I hated the Rudy-Mitt-John-Fred love fest that went on in the beginning. Of course, I hate anything involving the popular warmongers.
My favorite part was the gay marriage amendment question to Ron Paul.
"You're not conservative! You voted against a marriage ammendment! Ha ha! Zing!"
"It's a religious thing, and the only reason the state got into that business was for heath reasons!"
Reverse zing! Ron Paul was booed a few times. Now that's interesting. Most of the folks there were Romneyites, so it makes sense. I wonder how many people listened to the boo's instead of what he said?
I think it was McCain that wanted to build the missile defense system in Eastern Europe, which probably is the sentiment of the other frontrunners. Too bad it breaks a treaty we had with the Russians. We break a treaty, and somehow they're the bad guys? Yeesh! McCain's "Lol wen I b lookin at Putin I b seein a Kay uh Gee an-a bee" was a bit repetitive. Yet more coldwar mentality. When I stopped being a neocon, I wondered about their mentality. Now it's coming true. I'm not prophet, anyone could have seen that coming from a mile away!
Finally, what's up with the Hillary=Ron because of the war? They're completely different. Actually, when it's election time, I bet Hillary is going to become less lefty, and Rudy less righty. Then what's the difference? More smearing by FNC, but it's okay because it was in the form of a question HA-HA!
Afterwards, they had their little "spin room" thing. They sure spun Ron Paul winning the text votes. I thought I'd never type this, but Viva Colmes! At least he has one advocate on that evil channel. Stacking the votes...haha!
Well, at least Hannity was a bit nicer to him to his face. He asked if he would endorse the Republican. He said no. Then I think he asked if he would endorse the Libertarian. Best answer given in this spin room episode-maybe. That's right, there's no groupthink in every party.
Calm down, calm down. Yes, there is groupthink in the Republican Party...her name is Hillary. "Vote for the Republican, or else Hillary will win!"
The sad thing is...Hillary would be better than Rudy, Mitt, Fred, or John.
And I'm actually as conservative as they come...
Edit-I forgot that Rudy said Marriage was not just a Religious institution, but a civil one as well. This guy calls himself a Catholic and writes it off as being bad at it? Being bad at it would be falling into the same sins, not totally disagreeing with common Church sense. The differences between Rudy and Henry VIII are slowly eroding.
Anyway, the debate was interesting. Not quite great like the FNC folks were saying, but still interesting. Ron Paul isn't on the end of the group anymore, which is good.
I hated the Rudy-Mitt-John-Fred love fest that went on in the beginning. Of course, I hate anything involving the popular warmongers.
My favorite part was the gay marriage amendment question to Ron Paul.
"You're not conservative! You voted against a marriage ammendment! Ha ha! Zing!"
"It's a religious thing, and the only reason the state got into that business was for heath reasons!"
Reverse zing! Ron Paul was booed a few times. Now that's interesting. Most of the folks there were Romneyites, so it makes sense. I wonder how many people listened to the boo's instead of what he said?
I think it was McCain that wanted to build the missile defense system in Eastern Europe, which probably is the sentiment of the other frontrunners. Too bad it breaks a treaty we had with the Russians. We break a treaty, and somehow they're the bad guys? Yeesh! McCain's "Lol wen I b lookin at Putin I b seein a Kay uh Gee an-a bee" was a bit repetitive. Yet more coldwar mentality. When I stopped being a neocon, I wondered about their mentality. Now it's coming true. I'm not prophet, anyone could have seen that coming from a mile away!
Finally, what's up with the Hillary=Ron because of the war? They're completely different. Actually, when it's election time, I bet Hillary is going to become less lefty, and Rudy less righty. Then what's the difference? More smearing by FNC, but it's okay because it was in the form of a question HA-HA!
Afterwards, they had their little "spin room" thing. They sure spun Ron Paul winning the text votes. I thought I'd never type this, but Viva Colmes! At least he has one advocate on that evil channel. Stacking the votes...haha!
Well, at least Hannity was a bit nicer to him to his face. He asked if he would endorse the Republican. He said no. Then I think he asked if he would endorse the Libertarian. Best answer given in this spin room episode-maybe. That's right, there's no groupthink in every party.
Calm down, calm down. Yes, there is groupthink in the Republican Party...her name is Hillary. "Vote for the Republican, or else Hillary will win!"
The sad thing is...Hillary would be better than Rudy, Mitt, Fred, or John.
And I'm actually as conservative as they come...
Edit-I forgot that Rudy said Marriage was not just a Religious institution, but a civil one as well. This guy calls himself a Catholic and writes it off as being bad at it? Being bad at it would be falling into the same sins, not totally disagreeing with common Church sense. The differences between Rudy and Henry VIII are slowly eroding.
Tuesday, October 16, 2007
Don't Mess With Us; Kudos to FBC
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John Harwood said
I also caught a Ron Paul interview of Fox Business Channel. Kudos to the male host for being very respectful, and maybe even delighted! The female was a bit more FNCish towards him. Sidenote, I could have swore her accent kept switching from southern to none. I might just write them a nice email, and maybe even watch their show. Maybe not, though. If they end up being neoconish, I'll be a sad lad.
John Harwood said
"Ron Paul dominated the debate, and some of my colleagues at CNBC thought that there was something wrong with that and they took the poll down. I want to tell you, my email box, thousands and thousands and thousands of email, like I haven't seen from any other -- you know,followers of Chris Dodd or Bill Richardson or Joe Biden."
I also caught a Ron Paul interview of Fox Business Channel. Kudos to the male host for being very respectful, and maybe even delighted! The female was a bit more FNCish towards him. Sidenote, I could have swore her accent kept switching from southern to none. I might just write them a nice email, and maybe even watch their show. Maybe not, though. If they end up being neoconish, I'll be a sad lad.
Monday, October 15, 2007
Ron Paul Astroturfing? And CNBC vs. Paul
Is it possible that a fake grassroots campaign is happening? Just what is astroturfing?
Maybe the polls are a bit skewed, but that's the others' fault. What's so exciting about them? "More dead people and more government control although less than the democrats"? Only the most committed neocons can get excited about that.
Who is astroturfing? Anyone who brings in low numbers at rallies, like Fred Thompson and John McCain.
Speaking of CNBC, lookie at what I found.
Uh, what? His views are similar to Pat Buchanan. Yes, Pat didn't win the nomination, but he did well considering he was "out of step with the party he [was] running in". Rudy's views aren't quite mainstream if we're to believe that 25% of the party is the Christian Right. What he doesn't want to admit is that the media anoints frontrunners. Name recognition didn't matter to Mitt Romney, he was still the media's darling. And why is that? To make for good TV. Forget any sort of political bias, if the majority of the people were behind the president, they would have to report on some celebrities a lot more often! I doubt they would mind too much.
And how did he raise almost half as much as Mitt and Rudy(subtracting Mitt's own "donation" to himself)? Sure, there's a number of non-Republicans donating, but who's to say they're not going to join and stay like I will if Dr. Paul wins?
There are plenty of ex-Republicans, and those people are the ones who share Ron Paul's views. Most Libertarians are ex-Republicans too. He may not be a neocon, but if the GOP wasn't taken over by the Neocons, CNBC would need a new excuse.
"Unlike genuine grassroots activism which tends to be money-poor but people-rich, astroturf campaigns are typically people-poor but cash-rich. Funded heavily by corporate largesse, they use sophisticated computer databases, telephone banks and hired organizers to rope less-informed activists into sending letters to their elected officials or engaging in other actions that create the appearance of grassroots support for their client's cause."Okay, we're not going to use the term literally. CNBC pulled their poll because their numbers didn't match the national numbers. Was it astroturfing? Probably not since it wasn't possible to vote more than once. Remember when Hannity said it was just Paulites "spamming" the text message vote? Well, it wasn't possible to vote more than once.
Maybe the polls are a bit skewed, but that's the others' fault. What's so exciting about them? "More dead people and more government control although less than the democrats"? Only the most committed neocons can get excited about that.
Who is astroturfing? Anyone who brings in low numbers at rallies, like Fred Thompson and John McCain.
Speaking of CNBC, lookie at what I found.
"He lacks the support needed to win the GOP nomination, and would even if the media covered him as heavily as we cover Rudy Giuliani. Why? Because Paul's views--respectable, well-articulated and sincerely held as they are--are plainly out of step with the mainstream sentiment of the party he is running in."
Uh, what? His views are similar to Pat Buchanan. Yes, Pat didn't win the nomination, but he did well considering he was "out of step with the party he [was] running in". Rudy's views aren't quite mainstream if we're to believe that 25% of the party is the Christian Right. What he doesn't want to admit is that the media anoints frontrunners. Name recognition didn't matter to Mitt Romney, he was still the media's darling. And why is that? To make for good TV. Forget any sort of political bias, if the majority of the people were behind the president, they would have to report on some celebrities a lot more often! I doubt they would mind too much.
And how did he raise almost half as much as Mitt and Rudy(subtracting Mitt's own "donation" to himself)? Sure, there's a number of non-Republicans donating, but who's to say they're not going to join and stay like I will if Dr. Paul wins?
There are plenty of ex-Republicans, and those people are the ones who share Ron Paul's views. Most Libertarians are ex-Republicans too. He may not be a neocon, but if the GOP wasn't taken over by the Neocons, CNBC would need a new excuse.
Wednesday, October 10, 2007
CNBC Debate
I caught the 9:00 repeat on MSNBC
Fred Thompson isn't very impressive. He didn't give much effort. More on him in another post.
Rudy wants to police the internet and would possibly create an FCC type of agency if (when) his idea doesn't work. He mentioned 9.11 once when Ron Paul talked about when is a good time to declare war. Iraq never declared war on us, and Iran hasn't attacked us. It could be argued that they are attacking us, but they wouldn't be if we weren't there, plus what they're doing is similar to what the CIA did during the 80's! Rudy doesn't know how to fight terrorism. His true colors were finally shown. When Maria asked how he would stop London replacing NYC, he said it wouldn't. He's ignoring the facts, as she pointed out. Replace NYC with America, and we get "America is great, and there's never going to be a replacement! We're number 1!!". Finally, where did he get that number about the terrorists we stopped?
Mitt is just creepy. He wants to consult lawyers before going to war with Iran. Are these impartial lawyers, or his own neocon ones with no respect for the law of the land? I'm going to assume the latter. His fight with Rudy went to show how disrespectful he is. He shouldn't have laughed or interjected any words before Rudy finished. They're all the same though, remember someone was laughing a the Fox debates when Ron Paul talked? Neocons have no class.
Huckabee was himself. Nothing spectacular, just the usual Christian Rightist (religious neocon)
McCain was himself also. I feel kind of bad since he's teetering near the second tier and he's not a complete jerk like the others.
Duncan Hunter...if everyone was tied, he'd be more frightening than Rudy. However, I don't remember what he said during this debate.
Tancredo and Brownback didn't get much time. They got a couple of questions asked to them, but mostly answered ones where everyone got to answer.
Ron Paul did well, but didn't get many questions. More than the two guys above though. Or, at least it seemed that way. Who knows.
The hosts were alright. I just don't like how much they focus on the frontrunners. Half the reason they're frontrunners is because the media is pimping them to that spot. And half the reason I'm voting for Ron Paul is to shame the media. I'll post about why else next time though. I do have some explaining to do.
All in all, a pretty alright debate. Nothing too spectacular.
The Hardball aftershow was horrible though. Chris' interview was good, but at the end, two of the guests called Ron Paul crazy and asked if he can stay in to the end. Yes, he can. He raised half the money Rudy did, and he apparently has only 1%
Sorry if this is a bit ranting. Here are the results of the polls on MSNBC
Who stood out from the pack? * 7918 responses
Ron Paul 72%
Mike Huckabee 7.6%
Mitt Romney 7.3%
Fred Thompson5%
Rudy Giuliani 4.1%
John McCain 1.7%
Tom Tancredo 0.9%
Sam Brownback 0.6%
Duncan Hunter 0.5%
Who showed the most leadership qualities? * 7852 responses
Ron Paul 71%
Mike Huckabee 8%
Mitt Romney 7.5%
Rudy Giuliani 4.8%
Fred Thompson 4.5%
John McCain 2.5%
Tom Tancredo 1%
Duncan Hunter 0.6%
Sam Brownback 0.5%
Who was the most convincing candidate? * 7834 responses
Ron Paul 72%
Mike Huckabee 8.3%
Mitt Romney 6.7%
Rudy Giuliani 4.3%
Fred Thompson 4.3%
John McCain 1.9%
Tom Tancredo 0.8%
Sam Brownback 0.7%
Duncan Hunter 0.6%
Who had the most rehearsed answers? * 7738 responses
Rudy Giuliani 31%
Mitt Romney 27%
Fred Thompson 21%
Ron Paul 7.2%
Mike Huckabee 5.3%
John McCain 4.4%
Sam Brownback 1.6%
Tom Tancredo 1.2%
Duncan Hunter 0.8%
Who avoided the questions? * 7678 responses
Rudy Giuliani 38%
Fred Thompson 22%
Mitt Romney 17%
Ron Paul 5.9%
John McCain 5.7%
Mike Huckabee 5.5%
Sam Brownback 2.5%
Tom Tancredo 1.7%
Duncan Hunter 0.9%
Who had the best one-liner? * 7636 responses
Ron Paul 53%
Mitt Romney13%
Fred Thompson 12%
Mike Huckabee 9.2%
Rudy Giuliani 4.5%
John McCain 3.2%
Tom Tancredo 2.6%
Sam Brownback 1.6%
Duncan Hunter 0.7%
I thought Brownback had the best one-liner *shrugs*
Fred Thompson isn't very impressive. He didn't give much effort. More on him in another post.
Rudy wants to police the internet and would possibly create an FCC type of agency if (when) his idea doesn't work. He mentioned 9.11 once when Ron Paul talked about when is a good time to declare war. Iraq never declared war on us, and Iran hasn't attacked us. It could be argued that they are attacking us, but they wouldn't be if we weren't there, plus what they're doing is similar to what the CIA did during the 80's! Rudy doesn't know how to fight terrorism. His true colors were finally shown. When Maria asked how he would stop London replacing NYC, he said it wouldn't. He's ignoring the facts, as she pointed out. Replace NYC with America, and we get "America is great, and there's never going to be a replacement! We're number 1!!". Finally, where did he get that number about the terrorists we stopped?
Mitt is just creepy. He wants to consult lawyers before going to war with Iran. Are these impartial lawyers, or his own neocon ones with no respect for the law of the land? I'm going to assume the latter. His fight with Rudy went to show how disrespectful he is. He shouldn't have laughed or interjected any words before Rudy finished. They're all the same though, remember someone was laughing a the Fox debates when Ron Paul talked? Neocons have no class.
Huckabee was himself. Nothing spectacular, just the usual Christian Rightist (religious neocon)
McCain was himself also. I feel kind of bad since he's teetering near the second tier and he's not a complete jerk like the others.
Duncan Hunter...if everyone was tied, he'd be more frightening than Rudy. However, I don't remember what he said during this debate.
Tancredo and Brownback didn't get much time. They got a couple of questions asked to them, but mostly answered ones where everyone got to answer.
Ron Paul did well, but didn't get many questions. More than the two guys above though. Or, at least it seemed that way. Who knows.
The hosts were alright. I just don't like how much they focus on the frontrunners. Half the reason they're frontrunners is because the media is pimping them to that spot. And half the reason I'm voting for Ron Paul is to shame the media. I'll post about why else next time though. I do have some explaining to do.
All in all, a pretty alright debate. Nothing too spectacular.
The Hardball aftershow was horrible though. Chris' interview was good, but at the end, two of the guests called Ron Paul crazy and asked if he can stay in to the end. Yes, he can. He raised half the money Rudy did, and he apparently has only 1%
Sorry if this is a bit ranting. Here are the results of the polls on MSNBC
Who stood out from the pack? * 7918 responses
Ron Paul 72%
Mike Huckabee 7.6%
Mitt Romney 7.3%
Fred Thompson5%
Rudy Giuliani 4.1%
John McCain 1.7%
Tom Tancredo 0.9%
Sam Brownback 0.6%
Duncan Hunter 0.5%
Who showed the most leadership qualities? * 7852 responses
Ron Paul 71%
Mike Huckabee 8%
Mitt Romney 7.5%
Rudy Giuliani 4.8%
Fred Thompson 4.5%
John McCain 2.5%
Tom Tancredo 1%
Duncan Hunter 0.6%
Sam Brownback 0.5%
Who was the most convincing candidate? * 7834 responses
Ron Paul 72%
Mike Huckabee 8.3%
Mitt Romney 6.7%
Rudy Giuliani 4.3%
Fred Thompson 4.3%
John McCain 1.9%
Tom Tancredo 0.8%
Sam Brownback 0.7%
Duncan Hunter 0.6%
Who had the most rehearsed answers? * 7738 responses
Rudy Giuliani 31%
Mitt Romney 27%
Fred Thompson 21%
Ron Paul 7.2%
Mike Huckabee 5.3%
John McCain 4.4%
Sam Brownback 1.6%
Tom Tancredo 1.2%
Duncan Hunter 0.8%
Who avoided the questions? * 7678 responses
Rudy Giuliani 38%
Fred Thompson 22%
Mitt Romney 17%
Ron Paul 5.9%
John McCain 5.7%
Mike Huckabee 5.5%
Sam Brownback 2.5%
Tom Tancredo 1.7%
Duncan Hunter 0.9%
Who had the best one-liner? * 7636 responses
Ron Paul 53%
Mitt Romney13%
Fred Thompson 12%
Mike Huckabee 9.2%
Rudy Giuliani 4.5%
John McCain 3.2%
Tom Tancredo 2.6%
Sam Brownback 1.6%
Duncan Hunter 0.7%
I thought Brownback had the best one-liner *shrugs*
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